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pokergiant
September 11th, 2007, 08:52 AM
I always wondered who was better Daniel Negreanu or Phil Hellmuth, Post, who ever you think can win heads up.

triple-t
September 11th, 2007, 08:53 AM
If the game was holdem, I'd have to go with Phil. Any other game and Daniel's the man.

EDIT: Of course, this is in the long run... In a single heads-up match, it's anyone's ballgame.

resveratrol
September 11th, 2007, 09:54 PM
I think Phil's a tricky bastard. Daniel's observant.

Phil would fundamentally be offensive, and Daniel would be defensive (I'm not referring to actual play; I'm referring to the relationship/matchup). The offensor, the one making the moves, wins more often. I learned that from my CS:S days...

I bet Phil would win 60%-70% of the time.

Chewsh
September 12th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Both are the best readers in the game IMO, but if i had to chose, I'd have to go with Hellmuth and his arrogant ways.

triple-t
September 12th, 2007, 04:17 AM
I think Daniel could gain an advantage by taking Phil off his game. Phil likes to keep the pot small and if Daniel takes that away from Phil, it would either even the game or give Daniel a slight edge.

nicko82
September 12th, 2007, 04:39 AM
Another question is who would you want to win ;)

I still hate the arrogant one no matter how good he is:boxing:

davidab157
September 12th, 2007, 05:02 AM
I would be rooting for Negreanu all the way!

nicko82
September 12th, 2007, 05:41 AM
I would be rooting for Negreanu all the way!

good lad ;)

squeezyplayer
September 12th, 2007, 07:29 AM
depends on the structure. if it was a 100BB or deeper cash game, hellmuth would not have a chance. sick tourney player, but such a donk at cash.

squeezyplayer
September 12th, 2007, 07:31 AM
not that negreanu is a really strong hu nlhe payer, either. i'd pick patrik antonius or brian townsend over him, among others

triple-t
September 12th, 2007, 11:27 AM
I really wouldn't care who won the match because I get nothing either way.

FaDi
September 12th, 2007, 11:31 AM
I really wouldn't care who won the match because I get nothing either way.


let's say you had the choice to stake one of em

triple-t
September 12th, 2007, 12:03 PM
let's say you had the choice to stake one of em

I wouldn't because it's too close to call. I prefer better odds on my money.

MJPerry
September 12th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Close call. I'd root for Negreanu to win by a suckout just to watch PH explode.

resveratrol
September 13th, 2007, 10:04 AM
Close call. I'd root for Negreanu to win by a suckout just to watch PH explode.

In terms of potential for satisfaction, I would definitely vote for Hellmuth.

Hellmuth's tirades are so entertaining, even if he loses and I lose my bet, at least I get the sadistic pleasure of watching him lose his mind

triple-t
September 13th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Close call. I'd root for Negreanu to win by a suckout just to watch PH explode.

I believe one of these days, Phil WILL spontaneously combust. I just hope ESPN is there to catch it on camera.

Av8tion
September 15th, 2007, 08:16 PM
depends on gametype

cash game: Danny-boy
freezeout tournament: Phil

drnknmnkyFTW
October 6th, 2007, 06:52 AM
lol? its not even close if we are talking about 100bb deep+ cashgame.. phil wouldnt stand a chance against dn.

RakebackForever.com
November 29th, 2007, 08:04 PM
The person who would win would be the person who gets better cards. In the long run I would say Negreanu. His fundamentals are a little messed up, but his reading capability is the best out there. In heads up play, fundamentals aren't really needed. (Hachem's 2,5 straight in WSOP 2005) Hellmuth is better fundamentally but in heads up, reads are more important.

RakeGuard
November 30th, 2007, 02:28 PM
In terms of potential for satisfaction, I would definitely vote for Hellmuth.

Hellmuth's tirades are so entertaining, even if he loses and I lose my bet, at least I get the sadistic pleasure of watching him lose his mind

Negreanu FTW. Has to be on a bad beat just so Hellmuth cries on camera for a little while.

ChicagoKilla
December 4th, 2007, 04:47 AM
i think phil would win

Legologic
December 4th, 2007, 11:19 AM
daniel would win cos he's lucky as bugary

Curtom
January 18th, 2008, 08:30 PM
Indeed an intriguing question. I would give Negreanu a sleight edge for one reason and one reason only. Composure. Pure and simple. Phile tends to tilt when things don't go his way. Negreanu is much more level headed than Phil. Advantage Negreanu.

RakeGuard
January 18th, 2008, 09:57 PM
I think Daniel would win the poker matchup...He might, however, be forced to give up his crown just to make Phil shutup. So in the end I guess that means that Phil wins.

Kayos
January 19th, 2008, 12:41 AM
they are both great players but i think phil is a little better

5ive7even
January 19th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Daniel > anyone in the world.








imo.

belig69
January 19th, 2008, 03:21 AM
negreanu would win i think

would be a close match though

ponceD
January 22nd, 2008, 07:36 PM
Heads up I think phil would lose. He plays to tight and I dont think he could adapt to dans loose tricky play. In the end phil would push post flop with his bullets and get called by dans 2 pair or something like that. I know this because I can see the future.

RakeGuard
January 24th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Wow. Ponce can see the future!

Ok, POTRIPPER against Ponce, but POTRIPPER has 3X the chip amount and Ponce is hungover. Talk amongst ya selves.

Bagonirix
January 26th, 2008, 03:23 AM
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO WOULD WIN, OP! YOU WANNA SUCK ON HIS COCK OR SOMETHING?

youngplayer9
January 28th, 2008, 07:13 PM
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO WOULD WIN, OP! YOU WANNA SUCK ON HIS COCK OR SOMETHING?

are you drunk?

ponceD
January 31st, 2008, 01:31 AM
lol I do. Only Phils though lol.

youngplayer9
February 7th, 2008, 12:13 AM
lol I do. Only Phils though lol.

I heard sucking on phils penis makes you whine more...just a rumor though.

5ive7even
February 8th, 2008, 12:30 AM
I heard sucking on phils penis makes you whine more

ya youd know :D

Davino
March 12th, 2008, 12:06 PM
lol

Coleman
March 12th, 2008, 01:30 PM
They would sit and stare and try to guess each others hand for a few days. No food, no water. It would be nuts.

swhitinger
March 22nd, 2008, 07:56 AM
I would have to go with Daniel, I think Phil is only a legend in his own mind!

jakoro
March 26th, 2008, 04:15 AM
I always wondered who was better Daniel Negreanu or Phil Hellmuth, Post, who ever you think can win heads up.
Hey I am sorry to say but I can not compare at all.

nodelay69
April 6th, 2008, 04:02 AM
danny would win in like three hands
just my thought

Coleman
April 6th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Phill would auto fold everything but aces and the only way Daniel would call is if he had the aces too.


In all reality, poker is a gamble. Despite who plays better, I'm sure Philly would donk out on the turn somewhere and Daniel wouldn't spot until the river because Philly loves to check/check/shove.