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zepthiir
November 21st, 2007, 08:41 AM
It seems I have been winning a few big hands lately but always in really marginal situations. I cant help but feel I am setting myself up for some big losses by playing like this.

Villian is very loose, 52vpip, my note on him simply says "Plays Ax like its the nuts". I called because his push felt more like weakness than strength, my read was right but still is this the right move?

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.60
CO: $9.95
zepth: $13.05
SB: $25.30
BB: $8.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) zepth is Button with :Jh :Js
UTG calls, CO raises to $0.2, zepth raises to $0.8, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: :Jc :4c :Tc ($2.55, 3 players)
UTG is all-in $7.8, CO folds, zepth calls.

Turn: :4h ($18.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.15)


River: :9c ($18.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.15)


Results:
Final pot: $18.15
UTG shows 6D AD
zepth shows JH JS

MJPerry
November 21st, 2007, 08:50 AM
I call that, if he had a made flush he wouldn't try to push you off the pot like that.

zepthiir
November 21st, 2007, 08:53 AM
yep, thats exactly my thinking, at this level not too many people are clever enough to overbet like that as a fake bluff

jharding666
November 21st, 2007, 09:11 AM
I don't know if I'd ever fold this

WotaWaster
November 21st, 2007, 10:18 AM
Very, very standard call. Folding here would be a big mistake and infact I would probably call sooner with top set than :3c :2c.
You have his range crushed and when behind you still win the pot 1/3 of the time with a board pairing.

zepthiir
November 21st, 2007, 10:49 AM
good to have my decision confirmed. It's hard not to be scared of the flush when you see a flop like that

WotaWaster
November 21st, 2007, 11:14 AM
The chance of any player flopping a flush given they start the hand with 2 suited cards is 118-1 (from memory).

I would say at a short handed game never fold a set on the flop fearing a flush (Infact never fold a set on any flop ever wouldnt be the worst starting guideline :)) just because even if you are up against a flush you win the hand 33% of the time and by the time you suspect he has a flush you are often getting 2-1 anyway. The all in overbets are very foten the bare A semibluffing anyway.

davidab157
November 21st, 2007, 02:51 PM
All chips = in pot.

MJPerry
November 21st, 2007, 03:11 PM
All penis = in FaDi's mum.

davidab157
November 21st, 2007, 03:15 PM
All penis = in FaDi's mum.

What, both inches?

MJPerry
November 21st, 2007, 03:23 PM
Yup. She needs some fillin' up.

FaDi
November 21st, 2007, 04:27 PM
yo

I'll break a thermometer and force feed your future kids mercury

obv

KRE8R
November 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM
What, both inches?

No, only the hard inch.