View Full Version : Getting to the business stage - 400 left of 14,000

November 3rd, 2013, 02:23 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem Poker Stars Bigger $8.80

SB ($41,719)
Hero ($63,398)
UTG ($187,893)
UTG+1 ($54,719)
UTG+2 ($110,831)
MP1 ($195,228)
MP2 ($292,887)
CO ($182,938)
BTN ($101,150)

Dealt to Hero 6:club: 4:diamond:

UTG raises to $6,400, fold, fold, fold, MP2 calls $6,400, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $3,200

FLOP ($24,400) 5:club: 2:spade: 7:club:

Hero checks, UTG bets $12,800, MP2 calls $12,800, Hero ?

Both villains were LAG's playing a ton of pots, utg good, mp not so good at all - had just had an incredible orbit prob quadrupling his stack with some dubious plays and calls but was running very hot.

Is this a situation you should avoid in the first place or embrace. If we play it pre flop (have to don't we at better than 6:1?) are we getting aggressive or calling on this flop. I didn't like the idea of a donk v aggro villains, a call as so many turns can hurt us again with these villains, so it looks a c/r (a shove I presume?) but that seems like it's only getting called by overpairs and some Broadways if it gets past utg to MP2 who decides he's (likely) riding his rush.

Jonathan Little
November 4th, 2013, 01:56 PM
I would fold preflop every time. Even getting good odds, you will not realize your equity. Once you flop an open ended straight draw, check pushing is your only option.

November 4th, 2013, 03:44 PM
ty. Figured this was the case but messed up in game saw the odds and was yipee. c/rai and out v TT. grrrrr. Eight hours. Idiot.

An interesting point that helped me realise this was a bad call was considering reverse implied odds as well as my immediate odds. I have two potentially dirty outs to a flush so am in bad shape v any made hand.

Live, learn and move on.