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    Default working out the maths?

    Hi im just trying to get my head around certain things. If for instance 1 player open shoves into me. And then looking on pokerstove my hand has say 38% equity against what I perceive his shoving range to be. What exactly do I need to be winning from the pot to make it a profitable call. For instance if I am calling does it include total amount of the pot that I could win including the amount I call or is it just the amount that's already in the pot that I will win. Hope this isn't too confusing the way its been put for someone to help me with. Many thanks David.

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    The expected value (EV) needs to be positive. Basic EV equation when calling is EV= % equity x total pot - amount to call
    If there is $50 in the pot and someone shoves for $100, you need to call $100 and the total pot is $250. EV = 0.38 * 250 -100 = -5. This means when you make this call on average you will lose $5. You don't quite have the odds to make the call.

    Hope this helps.
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    where/how did you get the .38%?

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    The 38% equity is from the original post. 0.38 is the decimal form of 38%.
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    Thank you, was it from $ pot odds %EV or card EV% ??? also how much (+) does one need to call, raise, $hove? generally speaking?

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    You should look up a poker dictionary online. It will help as you learn new concepts and new terms.

    Equity does not come from EV or pot odds. Equity is another way of saying "chance of winning at showdown if betting stopped right now". In this example it was based on the cards smoothie1 had against a range of hands they thought their opponent had.

    Generally speaking, calling, shoving, folding, and betting/raising are all going to have different expected values. You want to take the actions that give you the highest EV.
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    thank you ; the dictionary is the best advice I've gotten in years thanks again. gl

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