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    Default Analyse this ?

    Anyone want to give some thoughts on this?


    Field Size
    Prizes Net Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM MTT Avg. Finish %
    2 $0 0 0% 0/0 0% 0/0/0/0/0
    3-4 $0 0 0% 0/0 0% 0/0/0/0/0
    5-6 $0 0 0% 0/0 0% 0/0/0/0/0
    7-10 $0 Please log in to access 0 0% 0/0 0% 0/0/0/0/0
    11-18 $0 Profit, ROI and ABI 15 14% 0/7 0% 0/14/71/14/0
    19-45 $0 information 32 0% 0/11 0% 0/27/64/9/0
    46-90 $5 69 0% 1/3 33% 0/0/33/33/33
    91-180 $2 142 0% 2/5 40% 20/0/40/20/20
    181-360 $11 335 0% 16/70 23% 6/13/39/23/20
    361-1000 $59 605 1% 17/72 24% 10/11/46/19/14
    1001-3000 $24 2140 1% 21/72 29% 18/14/35/18/15
    3001-6000 $16 3754 0% 28/109 26% 10/18/43/16/13
    6001- $7 14412 8% 4/25 16% 12/16/32/24/16
    $122 2650 1% 85/355 24% 10/15/41/19/15

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    My analysis shows that someone has a lot of time but not a lot of money and is showing a short term profit in microstakes online tournaments.
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    This is stats for 2014 and is the start of my "cash" play at pokerstars. May only be short term and micro stakes but it shows consistency (IMO) since start-up. Do you think the 24% ITM and 10/15/41/19/15 over 355 MTTs is a sound foundation to build from or do you just think it "luck on the positive side of variation"? Or could it be that I am playing a fair-decent game?

    PS-The quantity of money is relevant to what I am prepared to play with rather than whats in my bank account. And the time spent on poker is recreational not professional.
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    I can't determine if it's skill or luck. When you really understand how much variance there is to this game you learn that short term results have little meaning. Also ITM isn't really the stat you want to track. The more important one is ROI. For example you could cash 24% and double your buyin in each of those cashes and still be a losing player.
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    It's not good to have too high an ITM, as it shows that you're min-cashing too much and not playing aggressively enough around the bubble. Even I'm a little timid at 17%... the best players all have around 13-14%.

    In any case, you've omitted the most meaningful stat, which is ROI. Nothing else really matters much, except to tell you what you might try to do to improve your ROI.
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    Xo hit it on the nose. I would also like to add that 355 is no where near a large enough sample size to take any accurate representation. Really you need 1000+ in my opinion.
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    And what should I be looking for the ROI to be like?

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    50% + is decent and the very best MTT players achieve near to 100%
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    Xopods probably just fires up another WSOP Main Event


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    That's over a very large sample size, though. My lifetime ROI is now 78% for MTTs (on about 2500 tournaments) which is pretty good, but reasonable... but over the kind of sample you have now, Betty, I've had as much as 388% ROI on 436 games in 2012, and as bad as about -50% over 600ish games at the beginning of this year. So it's really hard to say much about long-term performance on a sample of just a few hundred... the error bars are something like +/- 200%.
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    As a recreational player you ideally just want your ROI above zero. That way you can play without the hobby costing you money in the long run. As a pro, semi-pro, or a player aspiring to be either, you need an ROI high enough to meet your income goals for the time/volume you are willing to play.
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